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Atheism is a lie

Started by ebarrowes, August 14, 2009, 07:25:30 PM

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ebarrowes

I will probably get the boot for promoting this idea.

MariaEvri

http://members.arstechnica.com/x/asgard ... %20lie.jpg

ahem jokes aside
you didnt "promote" anything. You just typed a title. Explain pleas with your own words why you believe it is a lie. ?
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God made me an atheist, who are you to question his wisdom!
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Whitney

Quote from: "ebarrowes"I will probably get the boot for promoting this idea.

No...but you will be reminded that we promote discussion on this forum and "atheism is a lie" would classify as preaching since you did not discuss why you think it is a lie.

curiosityandthecat

Atheism isn't a fact or a statement. It's a worldview chosen based on a number of facts and observations.

Quote from: "OED"lie, n. An act or instance of lying; a false statement made with intent to deceive; a criminal falsehood.

lrn2grammar
-Curio

skurry

magic underwear is a lie... see I can play too.

sorry.

 :pop:

Karras

The cake is a lie.

Tell me ebarrowes, did you come here with the intention of getting banned? Perhaps you want to go scurrying back to your friends and complain how the mean old atheists censored you?

ebarrowes

Atheists enjoy a life free from the struggle to "do good" because when you leave off trying to please God, the devil leaves off of you; now you are now more or less on course for his program.

ebarrowes

I know that atheists, especially the ones in charge of websites, are anxious to weild their power in banning those who contradict atheism.

ebarrowes

The atheists get very disturbed at my comments and therefore, the moderator deems me bannable.

skurry

An often quoted atheist said something along the lines of;

"If you agree that, in the absence of God, you would 'commit robbery, rape, and murder', you reveal yourself as an immoral person, 'and we would be well advised to steer a wide course around you'. If on the other hand, you admit that you would continue to be a good person even when not under divine surveillance, you have fatally undermined your claim that God is necessary for us to be good."

Morality is not something that comes from god or the devil, morality comes from instinct and intelligence. There is quite a bit of research on the evolutionary benefits of morality.

curiosityandthecat

Quote from: "ebarrowes"Atheists enjoy a life free from the struggle to "do good" because when you leave off trying to please God, the devil leaves off of you; now you are now more or less on course for his program.
...the hell does that even mean?

Quote from: "ebarrowes"I know that atheists, especially the ones in charge of websites, are anxious to weild their power in banning those who contradict atheism.
Oh, do you now? Wield, like Jesus wielding the sword of holy justice, hm?

Quote from: "ebarrowes"The atheists get very disturbed at my comments and therefore, the moderator deems me bannable.
I think you're confusing the word "disturbed" with the word "annoyed." But, honestly (and I'm not a mod), all I've seen so far is ignorance, meaningless claims and the need to create a new post for every thought you have.

If you get banned for anything, it seems like it'll be spamming. Go on home, Big Love.
-Curio

MrWizard

I'm confused by the Scientology banner.


I say Troll.

ebarrowes

Quote from: "skurry"An often quoted atheist said something along the lines of;

"If you agree that, in the absence of God, you would 'commit robbery, rape, and murder', you reveal yourself as an immoral person, 'and we would be well advised to steer a wide course around you'. If on the other hand, you admit that you would continue to be a good person even when not under divine surveillance, you have fatally undermined your claim that God is necessary for us to be good."

Morality is not something that comes from god or the devil, morality comes from instinct and intelligence. There is quite a bit of research on the evolutionary benefits of morality.

There are two kinds of wrongdoing: 1) overt, negative acts and 2) not doing the positive that you know to do.  There is a verse in the Bible, Rev. 3: 15-16,  "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
A "moral" atheist refrains from the first.  Are there atheists who strive to avoid the second?

Karras

Quote from: "skurry"An often quoted atheist said something along the lines of;

"If you agree that, in the absence of God, you would 'commit robbery, rape, and murder', you reveal yourself as an immoral person, 'and we would be well advised to steer a wide course around you'. If on the other hand, you admit that you would continue to be a good person even when not under divine surveillance, you have fatally undermined your claim that God is necessary for us to be good."

The way I like to put it is "If the only thing stopping you going postal is a belief in God, I don't want to be around you if you have a crisis of faith".

ebarrowes,

I repeat my question. Did you come here with the intention of being banned? You seem to have a chronic case of martyr syndrome.

I say with some confidence that it will not be crticism of atheism that will cause it to happen. The spamming, preaching and lack of desire to engage in a rational debate on the other hand....

You ranting does the cause of atheism the world of good, to be honest.

I can also assure you that I do not get disturbed at your comments. That you are potentially able to vote  and live amongst normal people does undermine my faith in humanity somewhat, however.

Will

I see, Christians are without sin.  :|
I want bad people to look forward to and celebrate the day I die, because if they don't, I'm not living up to my potential.